{"id":29763,"date":"2014-08-03T17:13:22","date_gmt":"2014-08-03T16:13:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pointblanknews.com\/pbn\/?p=29763"},"modified":"2014-08-03T17:13:22","modified_gmt":"2014-08-03T16:13:22","slug":"stop-persecuting-apc-governors-kwankwaso-warns-president-jonathan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pointblanknews.com\/pbn\/interviews\/stop-persecuting-apc-governors-kwankwaso-warns-president-jonathan\/","title":{"rendered":"Stop Persecuting APC Governors, Kwankwaso Warns President Jonathan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>GovernorRabi\u2019u Musa Kwankwaso of Kano state is among President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan\u2019s<br \/>\npolitical rivals who spare no word in pinpointing the anomalies in the PDP-led government<br \/>\nunder the leadership of Jonathan. For Kwankwaso, things continue to get worse<br \/>\nby the day and President Jonathan has no grounds to win election \u201cby luck\u201d in<br \/>\n2015; instead, Kwankwaso who left PDP in the wake of controversies that trailed<br \/>\nthe party\u2019s 2013 Special Convention insisted that with the \u201cpoor performance\u201d<br \/>\nof Jonathan\u2019s government, particularly in the area of security of lives and<br \/>\nproperties of Nigerians, 2015 elections will be a walk-over for the All<br \/>\nProgressive Congress (APC), where he now belongs. He spoke with journalists in<br \/>\nKano, including representative of Pointblanknews.com.<br \/>\nExcerpts:<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Whatis your feeling over recent attacks by female suicide bombers during the Sallah<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>period?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\nItis very sad that we had some few cases of attacks; and all of these last ones<br \/>\nwere done by very young ladies\u2014it is very sad, but the fact remains that as<br \/>\nlong as we are into this issue of insurgency and other criminal activities, we<br \/>\nwill continue to see all sorts of scary things, all sorts of surprises, because<br \/>\nbefore now it will be very difficult to even believe that a Nigerian can go and<br \/>\nkill himself or herself\u2014especially now that we are seeing women into it\u2014it is<br \/>\nanother dimension that the people and, of course, the security agencies must<br \/>\nopen their eyes. It is not only in Kano; we have other cases elsewhere\u2014we were<br \/>\neven told that another woman was arrested in Katsina state; and I think now,<br \/>\nthe security agencies have to be wiser in handling this issue.<br \/>\nAsusual, we want to appeal to the people of the state\u2014Nigerians in general to<br \/>\ncontinue to support the security agencies, and even the President because this<br \/>\nis an era that he needs support and support should be given to him to manage<br \/>\nthe situation so that we can go to the 2015 election\u2014that is where by the grace<br \/>\nof God, we can get a better leadership that will be fame enough to stand<br \/>\nagainst any insurgency and killing of Nigerians. It is sad that we have to go<br \/>\nthrough all this and these are things that can be handled better over the<br \/>\nyears; but unfortunately, it is rising. I think that is not good for any<br \/>\nleadership.<br \/>\nEvery\u00a0leader, every time, should protect lives and properties of the people he is<br \/>\nleading, and I think that is the expectation of Nigerians; and I think that is<br \/>\nwhat Nigerians are saying\u2014that these killings, these nonsense, these madness<br \/>\nmust stop. So, I believe that all hands must be on deck; and the consequences<br \/>\nof all this is inadequacies of leadership. Nigerians now are more divided than ever<br \/>\nthrough religious and ethnic lines. All this our differences are now being<br \/>\namplified by what is happening today. What is happening today is really not<br \/>\ngood for this country, it is not good for our neighbours, it is not good for<br \/>\ninternational community. What Nigerians are saying is that we can stop what is<br \/>\nhappening today. That is our appeal to the Commander-in-Chief to wake up and<br \/>\nstop all this killings and destruction of properties of individuals and public<br \/>\ninfrastructure being destroyed on daily basis. This is very dangerous for all<br \/>\nof us and that is why we keep on saying this and I hope people should listen to<br \/>\nus. The President should surround himself with patriotic Nigerians and not<br \/>\nhawks\u2014people who are there to represent themselves and take whatever garbage<br \/>\nthat is left for them and their family.<br \/>\nPeopleare now concerned. Everybody now is afraid\u2014it doesn\u2019t matter your religion, it<br \/>\ndoesn\u2019t matter your tribe, it doesn\u2019t matter where you come from. You know our<br \/>\nleader, General T.Y. Danjuma made a very expensive joke and everybody was<br \/>\nlaughing, and I think they were laughing at the Commander-In-Chief. General<br \/>\nDanjuma said the Commander-In-Chief should lead them to Sambisa Forest to<br \/>\nrescue the Chibok girls and everybody was laughing! I am sure General T.Y.Danjuma<br \/>\nmust be very angry with the situation, because I am sure he would start<br \/>\nremembering himself about 50 years ago when he was strong enough to solve<br \/>\nproblems like this for this country and even outside Nigeria\u2014now we have a<br \/>\nsituation in our hands which is very disheartening. Just yesterday, we watched<br \/>\nan event where they were collecting billion of Naira for the victims\u2014well<br \/>\nit is good to get every Naira or Dollar for the victims, but what we are saying<br \/>\nhere is that we want more sustainable way of handling the issue of North-East<br \/>\nand other parts of this country. It should sustainable, it should be<br \/>\nreliable, it should come from a reliable source. That is why we are saying that<br \/>\nthere must be a marshal plan that can support that particular area because we<br \/>\nbelieve that every government, every leader has challenges. Our challenge now<br \/>\nis big and huge. The late Umar Musa Yar\u2019Adua faced a similar challenge and<br \/>\neverybody knows what he did to ensure that the challenge was sorted out\u2014and I<br \/>\nthink to a very large extent he succeeded. Now, this issue of begging people to<br \/>\ngive money, especially in our situation now, I don\u2019t think that will work at<br \/>\nthe long-last. What is very important is for the government to tackle it and<br \/>\nfor the government to face the reality\u2014that there is correlation between<br \/>\nilliteracy, poverty, unemployment in one hand and of course violence,<br \/>\ninsurgency and so on and so forth. That is what they don\u2019t want to accept. But<br \/>\nthat is the reality everywhere in the world and everybody knows it. Everybody told<br \/>\nthem, but unfortunately, they don\u2019t want to accept it. And their reasons are<br \/>\nbest known to them. I personally believe that unless the issue of North-East is<br \/>\ntackled, we will continue to unfortunately and regrettably have some crises (I<br \/>\nam saying this because it is the truth; and you are aware that I am not from<br \/>\nthe North-East.) They have a reservoir of people who could be recruited any<br \/>\nminute, any time. They have people whose value is so low to the extent that<br \/>\nthey will be happy and willing to die any day and any time. So, we will keep on<br \/>\npraying and we have to urge to ensure that there is peace in the North-East,<br \/>\nthere is peace in the North-West, and there is peace in the North-Central, and<br \/>\nof course there is peace in the West and in the South because even the South,<br \/>\nwe are aware of the level of insecurity there. There is a whole lot of<br \/>\ninsecurity. How they are managing it is not coming out like our own, I don\u2019t<br \/>\nknow\u2014maybe because they have the radio, television and newspapers; and they<br \/>\ndecided not to blow it out\u2014otherwise the people who are there, who are telling<br \/>\nus the level of insecurity in the South generally is not something that any<br \/>\nfriend of Nigeria would want to hear. So, I think that is where the issue of<br \/>\nchange comes in. I believe that APC at the end of the day will ensure peace;<br \/>\nbecause without peace, there will be no development; without peace, you cannot<br \/>\ngo to school (like we are seeing in the North-East); and I hope, God\u2019s willing,<br \/>\nthis madness will stop; and we will ensure it stops as soon as possible.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Recently,\u00a0we witnessed an attack orchestrated to assassinate General Muhammadu Buhari in<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><em>Kaduna. How do you view it?<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\nFirst\u00a0of all, let me take this opportunity once again to commiserate with General<br \/>\nMuhammadu Buhari and of course, Sheikh Dahiru Bauchi, their families, their<br \/>\nrelations and of course, anybody that is close to them. While commiserating<br \/>\nwith them, I think, I should also congratulate Nigeria in the sense that the<br \/>\nlives of these two leaders were saved. I am congratulating Nigeria because only<br \/>\nGod knows what would have happened in this country if any one of them, and at<br \/>\nworst, two of them lost their lives on that day. It is very sad that they had<br \/>\nto go through this trauma at their age and their level and position in the<br \/>\nsociety. This is Nigeria for you and this is the situation we all find<br \/>\nourselves. Everybody is having his own share of trouble, attack and so on and<br \/>\nso forth. Dahiru Bauchi I think he is a little bit older than my father\u2014my<br \/>\nfather had to go through similar experience also in a Mosque at Kwankwaso. They<br \/>\nwent and spread a small Mosque where my father was praying with bullets. They<br \/>\nhad to push him into a particular corner, and so many people heaped themselves<br \/>\non top of him and they received all the bullets. Three people died, 13 people<br \/>\nwounded on top of him. So, you can see that now, it cuts across strata, it cuts<br \/>\nacross the different segment of our society. The late Emir of Kano (Ado Bayero)<br \/>\nwas attacked right on the streets of Kano. Other traditional Rulers have been<br \/>\nattacked in the Mosque, just like my father who is a Traditional Ruler. So<br \/>\nalso, all other sectors of people\u2014civil servants, politicians, police,<br \/>\njournalists, everybody; and that is not good for any country.<br \/>\nIn\u00a0this particularly case of Kaduna, we keep on thanking the Almighty God that<br \/>\nthey escaped death by whiskers. And I want to say we are lucky; but I believe<br \/>\nnobody can run any country with luck. You can win election by luck if you have<br \/>\ngood luck, but you cannot run any administration, any government, serious government,<br \/>\nby luck! Because it has its limitations\u2014you cannot be lucky all the time. I<br \/>\nthink that is what everybody should know. You see, when the issue happened,<br \/>\nthere were many people who have been pointing fingers; and that is a lesson<br \/>\nalso, especially for the leaders. Leaders should create an environment of love,<br \/>\nso that even if bad stories happen anywhere, nobody will point at their<br \/>\ndirection\u2014and that is what has to be done. After the incident, we have seen so<br \/>\nmany commentators trying to exonerate so many people, but you see, that is not<br \/>\nthe issue because those who are saying it were saying it on papers; maybe, they<br \/>\nare on social media; maybe, they are on television and so on\u2014but you see, under<br \/>\nthose circumstances, it is not those who even have money to buy newspaper that<br \/>\nwill take laws into their hands\u2014that is the unfortunate thing. The unfortunate<br \/>\nthing is people who have no capacity to buy newspaper or even read it if they<br \/>\nhave it are the people who take decision; and that is such of the decisions that<br \/>\ncannot yield anything. That is why (I hope everybody is listening) their<br \/>\nadvisers, if they have any good one, should advice them to reduce the level of<br \/>\nhatred and dislike of leaders and their followers; and I think that will<br \/>\nprobably help to ensure that even if bad thing happen (God forbid), nobody will<br \/>\npoint fingers at some persons. A lot of people are saying that not certainly<br \/>\nthat leaders are being accused of doing something bad; but leaders can also be<br \/>\naccused for not stopping something bad. I think leaders have to know that\u2014that<br \/>\nthe resources of this country\u2014both human and material are so enormous to the<br \/>\nextent that we shouldn\u2019t find ourselves into this avoidable mess and we will<br \/>\ncontinue to pray for the country and work for it to come together\u2014that all this<br \/>\ndivides should be de-emphasized and we have seen in the past when Muslim,<br \/>\nMuslim ticket was sold in this country, everybody was happy. At that time, even<br \/>\nMuslims and those of us here in Kano didn\u2019t only vote for that ticket because<br \/>\nthey were Muslim, Muslim, but because we believed in democracy. Our son who is<br \/>\nalso our leader, then and now, Alhaji Bashir Usman Tofa, was a candidate who I<br \/>\ncome from the same Ward with him, the same polling boot; unfortunately, at that<br \/>\ntime, we came out and voted for MKO Abiola. Abiola won in our polling boot, won<br \/>\nin our Ward, won in our Local Government Area. So, we had no problem with<br \/>\nethnicity at that particular time. Abiola won here, and won with huge margin,<br \/>\nunbelievable margin, and under normal circumstances, we didn\u2019t expect that. We<br \/>\nhad no any sentiment that this man was coming from our state; my house and<br \/>\nBashir Tofa\u2019s house then and now is within the same vicinity, yet we voted<br \/>\nAbiola. Look at the case of Chief Olusegun Obasanjo. We were supporters of<br \/>\nObasanjo. In 1999, our son here, the late Abubakar Rimi was contesting; we<br \/>\ndidn\u2019t support him\u2014I didn\u2019t support him, then I heard well over 90 per cent of<br \/>\nmy votes then\u2014with the biggest votes in terms of number. It is just like we<br \/>\nhave it now in APC\u2014I have the largest contingents to any convention. So, in<br \/>\n1999, we went to Jos, and we voted for Obasanjo from the South, a Christian\u2014he<br \/>\nwon election\u2014the primary election. We came here, we voted for him again in the<br \/>\nmain election. The same thing in 2003, our son here contested, yet, we<br \/>\nsupported Obasanjo. In 2003, everybody knew my history. We lost election, but<br \/>\nwe stood by Obasanjo. We lost election but we had no regret whatsoever\u2014that is<br \/>\nhow party politics should be played; unlike a situation where at this time, at<br \/>\nthe national level, government is reduced to provincial government; and I think<br \/>\nthis is the biggest undoing. So many people are not happy, so many people are<br \/>\nangry, including leaders who should be comfortable either in the opposition or<br \/>\nin the party that is governing the country\u2014people at certain level should be<br \/>\nhappy with the system\u2014many people who are in the system now are very angry with<br \/>\nthe system. I believe that is not healthy for any democracy.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Let\u00a0us know the measures you are putting in place to retain investors in Kano in<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>the face of this entire crisis?<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\nYou\u00a0see with what we are passing through in this country\u2014what Kano or any other<br \/>\nstate can do is to have people who can protect our interest; and those<br \/>\npeople who are suppose to protect our interest are working against our<br \/>\ninterest. If you talk about investment, we have so many airlines that are<br \/>\ninterested to fly in Kano, but somebody are busy in Abuja blocking them, to the<br \/>\nextent that many of them have now surrounded; and even those who were allowed,<br \/>\nlike Emirate (everybody was happy Emirate was coming and co-incidentally it was<br \/>\nto come on the August 1, that is today), but some people blocked; and that was<br \/>\nafter getting all the papers, after even selling all the tickets! There are<br \/>\npeople right now holding the tickets, now they said they should not come to<br \/>\nKano. People are now holding Emirate ticket to Kano; they sold all the tickets,<br \/>\nfully booked and they stopped them. How do you handle this? When somebody would<br \/>\nsay I want to come and invest, a company like Emirate will not encourage that<br \/>\nperson. Look at the Emirate\u2014good airline, everybody was happy because<br \/>\nEmirate was coming to Kano. Now, tell me how I can bring any investor. I<br \/>\npersonally went to the chairman of Emirate in Dubai, we held meetings with him.<br \/>\nI saw almost everybody, including the then Minister of Aviation (Stella Oduah).<br \/>\nThe last I spoke to her during a meeting, I said Honourable Minister when are<br \/>\nwe going to have that approval to get this airline coming to Kano, her answer<br \/>\nwas \u2018it depends on the outcome of today\u2019s meeting,\u2019 and that was the end. Now<br \/>\nthat we have Osita Chidoka\u2014I don\u2019t know much about him, but from the little I<br \/>\nknow about him, I think he is a good man. He is somebody who will not reduce<br \/>\nFederal Government to his village meeting or a gathering of his friends. He is<br \/>\nnot somebody who will say, I want people from this side of the country, I don\u2019t<br \/>\nwant people from the other side of the country\u2014and that destroys the essence of<br \/>\npolitical party. In political party during a democratic setting, you don\u2019t have<br \/>\nfight between Muslims and Christians, you don\u2019t have fight between South and<br \/>\nNorth, you don\u2019t have fight between Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba or any other tribe\u2014why<br \/>\nbecause they are all there at the table. Under normal circumstance, an Igbo man<br \/>\nor a Yoruba man, or Itshekiri man, or Urhobo man who is a Christian and from<br \/>\nthe South, who is in my party, under normal circumstance, is my number brother,<br \/>\nnot my blood relationship who is in another party. Now, the whole thing has<br \/>\nbeen changed and I think that is what is making the whole polity sick!<br \/>\nSo,\u00a0we agree that there is no question about the fact that we have done so much for<br \/>\nthe state and we have invested in terms of infrastructure, we have invested, we<br \/>\nhave invested in terms of empowerment and so on, we thank all mighty God and we<br \/>\nhave all the support of every responsible person in the state\u2014those who are<br \/>\nthere for development and progress. However, as a politician, particularly, in<br \/>\nour own level, you have to contend with enemies and people who are<br \/>\nanti-progress\u2014and I think we are prepared for that.<br \/>\nWe\u00a0have a situation in Nasarawa where a sitting Governor of APC is about to be<br \/>\nimpeached. How are you taking it as a chieftain of the APC?<br \/>\nWell,\u00a0I don\u2019t think anybody is happy\u2014whether in APC or any other responsible party in<br \/>\nthis country, especially, those who are conversant with the tenets of<br \/>\ndemocracy. Democracy is about winning election; and while you won election,<br \/>\nsomebody would have lost election\u2014even if it is through party system. And you<br \/>\nsee, in our Constitution, there are many sections that talked about the<br \/>\nopposition. Again, across the world, especially where you have mature<br \/>\ndemocracy, the Constitution supports opposition in their own way. In this<br \/>\ncountry, we have Commander-In-Chief who is very powerful in terms of killing<br \/>\nhis opponents. He is ruthless\u2014he does not wait for anybody to advice him. That<br \/>\nis what we have seen in Ekiti state\u2014we went there\u2014and we saw what happened\u2014and<br \/>\nin politics, that is what we call armed robbery\u2014armed people taking votes for a<br \/>\nparticular political party. If it is Army, it is Nigerian Army, if it is<br \/>\nPolice, it is Nigerian Police\u2014they are not any political party police. And the<br \/>\nimplication is that the whole military, the whole police will be politicized.<br \/>\nThis Nigeria Army didn\u2019t come from a particular village, they are from all<br \/>\nkinds of villages in this country. This military and police should be<br \/>\nexonerated from politics\u2014they should not be used to go and intimidate people<br \/>\nand take victory by force. That is what we have seen in APC\u2014that is what<br \/>\nhappened in Ekiti. They went to Adamawa using the same security agencies, using<br \/>\nother opportunities they have and that opportunity worked against the welfare<br \/>\nof the people. They literally took Adamawa by force. We have read in the<br \/>\npapers. You have reported what happened at the residence of the Chief Judge,<br \/>\nwhat happened at the state Assembly. For those who are doing second-term, they<br \/>\nare in their eight year; for us who started in 2011, we are in our fourth year.<br \/>\nIn the next few months, there will be primary election\u2014by February next year,<br \/>\nthere will be election; and somebody has been on the seat for eight years\u2014and<br \/>\nin the eight year, you have no patience to leave that man, you want to remove<br \/>\nhim by force. In the case of Adamawa, I have forgotten the number of Local<br \/>\nGovernment Areas, but they are over 20, they have 25 members in the House, out<br \/>\nof 25, you took the position of Governor elected by millions of people and gave<br \/>\nit to one person who was elected by just people from his Local Government Area.<br \/>\nThey used the weaknesses of the Constitution, they cajoled the young men in the<br \/>\nAdamawa state House of Assembly, I am sure he induced them\u2014at the end of the<br \/>\nday, they told them look, \u2018why are you leaving this elderly man, why can\u2019t you take<br \/>\nit yourself, go and take, we will support you, we will give you all the support<br \/>\nof the Commander-In-Chief to go and deal with him!\u2019 They went<br \/>\nthere, they used the very process that would have protected the people of<br \/>\nAdamawa state and made them live in peace, and of course make progress\u2014they<br \/>\nused the same process to remove Murtala Yhako. Not only that, I know what they<br \/>\nwant is to mess up all what he did for this country, bring in all sorts of<br \/>\nallegations, take all those that they want to take; but I am happy that they<br \/>\ncouldn\u2019t get him, though I don\u2019t know where he is. Many of us would be happy to<br \/>\nstay here, at least, one would have been a nuisance to them, keeping any of us<br \/>\nin the prison.<br \/>\nMy\u00a0opinion is that if there is anybody that should be impeached, it is them who<br \/>\nare in the headquarters of corruption\u2014that is the headquarter of bad<br \/>\npolitics\u2014that is the headquarter of everything evil\u2014that is the headquarter. I<br \/>\nam not here to defend any Governor, because I am the Governor of Kano\u2014I can\u2019t<br \/>\ndefend anybody, I will not say somebody is right or wrong; but certainly you<br \/>\nshould put them on a balance. Everybody knows where the balance will tilt. We<br \/>\nhave cases of direct stealing of ballot boxes, cases of direct stealing<br \/>\nof crude oil\u2014look at what happened when our Emir (Sanusi Lamido Sanusi as CBN<br \/>\nGovernor) mentioned that $20 Billion was missing, instead of investigating the<br \/>\ncase, it was him who was being investigated; and of course, they wanted to send<br \/>\nhim to jail. But our God is wonderful, now he is the Emir of Kano\u2014and I don\u2019t<br \/>\nknow whether they are still contemplating that. So, all these issues are<br \/>\nissues that are of great concern to us and all our friends across the world.<br \/>\nNow, look at the case of Nasarawa\u2014it is even worst, but I think the people of<br \/>\nNasarawa now, especially, the young men have started doing the right thing.<br \/>\nThey are chasing the state Assembly members\u2014and I think they should chase them<br \/>\nto the Villa where they belong\u2014that is where they belong because I don\u2019t think<br \/>\nthey are protecting the people\u2019s interest in Nasarawa\u2014they steal want to<br \/>\nexploit the weakness of the Constitution\u2014since the Constitution is permitting<br \/>\n20 people to remove someone elected by millions of people as Governor. I don\u2019t<br \/>\nknow what that clause in the 1999 Constitution means, but they are using it<br \/>\nagainst the wish of the people. They are conniving with normal enemies to<br \/>\nremove APC Governors from their seats. I had wanted to go to Nasarawa\u2014you the<br \/>\nman (Governor Al-Makora) is a complete gentleman; and in this game, you have to<br \/>\nhave so many sights and faces\u2014a gentleman cannot be a good Governor. You cannot<br \/>\nbe a good Governor by just being a gentleman. We wanted to go there, we<br \/>\norganized. We mobilized people to go to Nasarawa and help them fight injustice,<br \/>\nbut he said, \u2018no, no, don\u2019t come.\u2019 We even begged him, we said okay, we are not<br \/>\nbringing all the foot soldiers, we want to come by ourselves\u2014in fact, a day<br \/>\nbefore we were to go there, he said, \u2018no, no, don\u2019t come.\u2019 What is the meaning<br \/>\nof that? You see, in this game, if you are dealing with mad people, you don\u2019t<br \/>\njust become a gentleman, you have to go out there and handle them as they are.<br \/>\nThis madness at Nasarawa, I am happy, the young men are taking the matter into<br \/>\ntheir hands\u2014that is what it should be because they are being insane; of course,<br \/>\nfor me, somebody who is leaving in glass houses, glasses everywhere, 100 per<br \/>\ncent glasses; and myself is leaving in a small window of glass\u2014you started<br \/>\nthrowing stones\u2014I will be very happy.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Are\u00a0you not afraid that they may use the state House of Assembly against you here<\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>in Kano?<\/strong> <\/em><br \/>\nWell,\u00a0I want us to finish this democracy, at least, from now to 2015. They have been<br \/>\ntrying that\u2014you are aware they came here and collected all the principal<br \/>\nofficers and other members of the state House of Assembly; not because they<br \/>\nstole anything, but because they didn\u2019t want us to go and pass budget. The EFCC<br \/>\ncame dead in the night and started collecting them like criminals, they took<br \/>\nthem to Abuja; and we followed them, there was just no answer, nothing. At the<br \/>\nend of the day, I don\u2019t know what happened, they granted us bail\u2014and the case<br \/>\nis still in Court. It is not that they stole money, but we don\u2019t want them to<br \/>\ngo there again tomorrow. I have never seen this kind of thing anywhere\u2014where<br \/>\nauthorities came to the state, to collect people in the night\u2014elected state<br \/>\nlegislators, you took them to EFCC, you lock them there. Just recently, we have<br \/>\nthe same case, after we joined the APC, they came with one hawk. I think he is<br \/>\nfrom Kebbi, he was calling them to his house\u2014you know Kano is a great state, we<br \/>\nwant people to come and settle in Kano, but many of them are trying to become<br \/>\nenemies\u2014and Kano is so attractive. If you are from Kebbi, why can\u2019t you go<br \/>\nthere and talk about Kebbi, why don\u2019t you go there and start talking about<br \/>\nKebbi\u2014maybe, because Kebbi is so small that you cannot talk about it. They are<br \/>\nhere creating all sorts of trouble. They are meeting in his house discussing<br \/>\nall sorts of things; but God so kind by the time they started the meeting, they<br \/>\nwere already celebrating and they told Abuja that they have gotten the Speaker<br \/>\nand majority of the members\u2014that APC has got executive, PDP has now the<br \/>\nlegislature\u2014thinking that because they got the principal officers and gave them<br \/>\nmoney, everybody will follow. By the I called them, we had meeting on a Friday<br \/>\nwhich ran into Saturday; by Sunday, they put them in the aircraft and took them<br \/>\nto Abuja; by Monday morning, I told them to go and declare, and instead of 31<br \/>\nmembers for APC, we were now having 34! So, they have been trying, but we are<br \/>\npoliticians here and we have been in the game. I have been here, I have been<br \/>\nthere, I have been all over; and I have some doses now, dose\u2014you know dose, I<br \/>\nhave some junks, which when pressed, I will use it and I believe all<br \/>\npoliticians in my position do the same.<br \/>\nEven\u00a0General Buhari have said what I want to say now that I have never seen a<br \/>\nsituation like this where the biggest beneficiary of this democracy are the<br \/>\nones destroying it. You ask me who is happy\u2014I should be one of them, my people<br \/>\nshould be all happy, we have performed, we have done so many things that can<br \/>\nenable us to be happy; but unfortunately, we are not happy because of what they<br \/>\nare doing. Politics should not be seen as enmity, politics should be seen as<br \/>\nsomething that you have to destroy this or that. The very forces that they used<br \/>\nin Ekiti, they used in Adamawa, which they are now using in Nasarawa, I am sure<br \/>\nthey want to try it again in Osun. These are the forces that they would have<br \/>\nused in the North-eastern states. On Ekiti Election Day, the whole state was<br \/>\ntaken over and dominated. I don\u2019t think Ekiti is as big as Sambisa Forest\u2014you<br \/>\ngo and dominate there, why are you dominating an innocent state? And what they<br \/>\ndon\u2019t know is that the party taking seats by force from other states does not<br \/>\ngive them automatic success in 2015. In this state in 2011, I had no one<br \/>\ncounselor, I had no one Local Government Chairman, I had no Commissioner, I had<br \/>\nno Governor, even our friends who were suppose to help us from Abuja, didn\u2019t<br \/>\nbelieve in us, but we won election. So, if you take Ekiti, you go and take<br \/>\nNasarawa, you are forcing everybody\u2014take it\u2014Commander-in-Chief. And there is<br \/>\none advertisement on NTA\u2014it makes me very angry\u2014showing Commander-In-Chief<br \/>\nsmiling by this their transformation agenda ambassadors\u2014Nigeria turn, turn,<br \/>\nthese are faceless organization with headquarters in the Villa. They are<br \/>\nfaceless, who are they\u2014tell me, Commander-In-Chief. I use to know the<br \/>\ncredibility of the Nigerian military. I use to know how much they were respected<br \/>\neven outside the country\u2014now, where are the respects. I am happy Rochas<br \/>\nOkorocha is also advertising his own achievements. Tell me what the<br \/>\nCommander-In-Chief is doing. Things that we have not been seen on ground, we<br \/>\nare already seeing it in television, courtesy of technology. I hear some people<br \/>\nwanted to do one-million-match in Abuja, I can do 10-million match in Kano.<br \/>\nWhat is one million? Maybe, somebody advised them and it didn\u2019t take place;<br \/>\nbecause I had wanted to do 10-million-match in Abuja, take over and dominate<br \/>\neverywhere.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>The\u00a0rumour is making the round in town and people are speculating that you wantedto contest the presidency. Are you interested?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We\u00a0have good materials in APC; we have people if given the opportunity, I have no<br \/>\ndoubt in my mind can perform creditably. Look, I am conversant with that Villa<br \/>\nfor over 20 years now. From the days of my membership in the House of<br \/>\nRepresentatives as Deputy Speaker, I know what the Commander-In-Chief should be<br \/>\ndoing under these circumstances. Now, they are just using propaganda. Look at<br \/>\nthis Chibok girls, for three weeks, they were arguing\u2014where are the names, who<br \/>\nare they, where are the photographs; they didn\u2019t believe that over 200 children<br \/>\nwere abducted. Haba! Even if it is 20 tortoise or goats! Won\u2019t you look for<br \/>\nthem! One of the reasons why I love this country is that we have of high<br \/>\ncaliber in all the regions, in all the states. Look at my former colleague,<br \/>\nformer Minister of Education, Dr. Oby Ezekwezili. This is somebody who works in<br \/>\nthe World Bank, but now she has devoted her time. She is not from this part of<br \/>\nthe country, but she felt she had to take the bull by the horn and that is what<br \/>\nwe are seeing in developed countries\u2014fight injustice, save people, help them,<br \/>\nif you have the opportunity to do so. They sent some hawks to go and stop the<br \/>\nprotesters. The other I saw an advertisement while she is saying<br \/>\n\u2018BringBackOurGirls.\u2019 Some people are saying \u2018votes for us, we want to<br \/>\nstay and maintain the statusquo; look at my photograph, I am smiling.\u2019 And they<br \/>\ndon\u2019t know time is of essence.<br \/>\nYou\u00a0have insisted that these killings and spate of insecurity must stop as 2015<br \/>\nelections draw near. What do you think should be done to stop it?<br \/>\nYou\u00a0see, you are in 2011. Government was not paying salaries. They had no money to<br \/>\npay salary; I am not talking of programmes and projects. From 2011 to date,<br \/>\nsalaries are being paid as at when due. Projects are in progress. We have huge<br \/>\nprojects which ordinarily states that are getting as many times what we are<br \/>\ngetting cannot go and show that this is what they have done. Challawa and Tiga<br \/>\nDam project is costing us N14.2 billion and we are finishing it latest by<br \/>\nMarch. Look at this fly-over at Kofar Nasarawa, about a kilometer; look at the<br \/>\none near Radio Kano which we want to name Obasanjo Fly-over, look at the the<br \/>\none in Sabon Gari, two kilometers\u2014that one is costing over N11 Billion. Look at<br \/>\nWuju Wuju, almost N10 Billion, look at North-West University, look at five<br \/>\nkilometer road in 44 Local Government Areas, which is over 220 kilometre of<br \/>\ndualized roads with street lights, look at our institute numbering about 24 and<br \/>\nso on and so forth. We are not talking of education which is our trade-mark.<br \/>\nFree education for all levels from primary, secondary and tertiary, look at over<br \/>\n2000 of our sons and daughters studying abroad\u2014some are doing very expensive<br \/>\ncourses like piloting. In each one, we are spending over N10 million; and they<br \/>\nare in the best universities in the 14 countries in the world. Now, we are<br \/>\nsending the next batch of over 500 people. Look at law and order in Kano, look<br \/>\nat street lights, look at drainages. We have changed the attitude of Kano state<br \/>\npeople. We have no Almajiri here. I hope when those guys from this side of the<br \/>\ncountry finish their job in Abuja, they will send them to their Almajiri<br \/>\nschools. We don\u2019t have Almajiri here in Kano, what we have are Nigerians of<br \/>\nKano state origin who are ready to compete with anybody in this country. We<br \/>\ntold our children to go back to school, we don\u2019t want to see anybody on the<br \/>\nstreets of Kano, we can\u2019t see them. If we see them, we arrest them because we<br \/>\nhave a law covering us to do that. We have to help our people. Now, if<br \/>\nyou are asking me what are we going to do\u2014how did we do all these? You see, it<br \/>\nis just leadership, if you are a leader; you are a leader, you cannot just go<br \/>\nthere by mere saying that the right man is there\u2014everybody will cue up. It is<br \/>\nnot a matter of what you are going to do and what are you not going to do. Did<br \/>\nI tell the people what I was going to do when I was campaigning\u2014I don\u2019t need to<br \/>\ntell them because they know me; and when I came, I did it. Nobody is above the<br \/>\nlaw in Kano. Look at Achaba or Okada\u2014they were two million and today, where are<br \/>\nthey. Look at beggars, not only Almajiri, where are they? Everybody has gone<br \/>\nback to the drawing board; they have gone back to school. We are empowering<br \/>\npeople from these 24 institutes. So, you see, what we need is a very strong<br \/>\nleadership, strong leadership is what will stop all the nonsense in the North<br \/>\nand in the South; and we have to stop it. And these are things that should be<br \/>\ndone\u2014we have been telling them; look, get a way to negotiate\u2014negotiate with<br \/>\nthem, not using the uniform or your position as Commander-In-Chief.<br \/>\nAs\u00a0the Chief Security Officer of the state can you explain why we no longer see<br \/>\nthe Joint Task Force checkpoints on the streets?<br \/>\nThat\u00a0tells you that we are not insurgents; that tells you that we are not criminals.<br \/>\nYou see, you are talking of investors, when you block all the streets with<br \/>\nsoldiers, how can the investors come in. Everybody would have been complaining.<br \/>\nSo, we don\u2019t see them but those people who are on the other side know where<br \/>\nthey are; we don\u2019t know where they are, so I don\u2019t have to tell you.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>We\u00a0read in the newspapers that immediately after the Council Meeting, Godswill<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><em>Akpabio of Akwa Ibom and Babangida Aliyu of Niger gave assurance that the<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n<strong><em>insurgency will stop before December. Do you believe them?<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\nWell,\u00a0I hope so. If they can finish it today, I will be happy and I think it will be<br \/>\nbetter. But that should come from the Commander-In-Chief. We should see all<br \/>\nthat on the ground. You don\u2019t give such assurance arbitrarily. Now, we are<br \/>\nlooking for $1 billion and I don\u2019t think they will be in a hurry to do anything<br \/>\nwithout collecting that money. So, these are serious issues, serious deadlines<br \/>\nthat should come from better places; not the Governor of this, or the Governor<br \/>\nof that who don\u2019t have the police, you don\u2019t have the SSS, you don\u2019t have the<br \/>\nmilitary\u2014and you are the one coming to tell the world that by December, it will<br \/>\nbe over; I hope they will finish it next week; but we want serious people to<br \/>\nsay it, not a Governor who is controlling a small portion of the country.<\/p>\n<p><strong>In\u00a0less than a year, there will be election. What are the qualities do you want in<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>your successor?<\/strong><br \/>\nYou\u00a0see, I am one of the lucky politicians who have worked very hard over the years<br \/>\nbecause I don\u2019t believe in luck alone; and along the line I met so many people.<br \/>\nI am lucky I have so many of them and I am conversant with all of them that are<br \/>\nqualified and competent enough with all the integrity to become the Governor of<br \/>\nKano state. Of course, just recently, we have other people coming from other<br \/>\nparties, that are the legacy parties, we have people there. So, it is not a<br \/>\nmatter of where can you get. God decides all these things and ours is just to<br \/>\nimplement. But the happiness is that we have a reservoir of high quality people<br \/>\nthat can manage the affairs of Kano state. Many of them have been tested in terms<br \/>\nof reality and hard work. This time is for us to finish our projects and<br \/>\ncomplete them before 2015 and that is where we are. When we get to the river,<br \/>\nwe will cross it.<br \/>\nHow\u00a0do you feel about the appointment of the new Inspector-General of Police?<br \/>\nI\u00a0am happy that our son has been appointed the IGP. He is from Jigawa and I know<br \/>\nthat he recorded most of his success as a Police man here in Kano. I hope he<br \/>\nshould work hard and honestly, he should be committed to change the direction<br \/>\nof the police. They should police with difference, police should be for all of<br \/>\nus, police should protect us, police should be neutral during election and that<br \/>\nis how we know democracy. By the time you now start sharing police that these<br \/>\nones are from these region, these ones are for the other party, all of this<br \/>\nwill bring crisis, because by the time you are stealing victory from Mr. A and<br \/>\ngiving it to Mr. B, you know that Mr. A will not respect you. I want to appeal<br \/>\nto all of them to always go by the rule of engagement, they should always<br \/>\nrespect themselves, and that is the only way for the police as an institution<br \/>\nto be respected by all. I think that is what the new IG should be doing and I<br \/>\nwish him well.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Related Posts generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>GovernorRabi\u2019u Musa Kwankwaso of Kano state is among President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan\u2019s political rivals who spare no word in pinpointing the anomalies in the PDP-led government under the leadership of&hellip;<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on wp_trim_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on wp_trim_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Related Posts generic via filter on wp_trim_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":29155,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[17,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-29763","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-exclusive","category-interviews"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - 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